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" "It may be moral to keep an empire because the fuzzy-wuzzies can't look after themselves.
It may be immoral to keep an empire because the people of the third world have an inalienable right to self-determination, but that doesn't matter whether it's moral or immoral.
Michael Andrew Gove, Lord Gove of Torry (born 26 August 1967) is a British journalist, editor of The Spectator magazine since October 2024 and Conservative politician. During his parliamentary career (he is a former MP), Gove has served as Secretary of State for Education (2010–2014), Secretary of State for Justice (2015–2016) and Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (2017–2019). He served as Secretary of State for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (2021–July 2022, October 2022–July 2024). An author and former columnist for The Times, he served as Member of Parliament (MP) for Surrey Heath from 2005 until the 2024 general election.
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We are at last experiencing a new empire: an empire where the happy south stamps over the cruel, dirty, toothless face of the northerner.
At last Mrs Thatcher is saying I don't give a fig for what half of the population say because the richer half will keep me in power. This may be amoral, this may be immoral, but it's politics and it's pragmatism.
Gove: I think the people in this country have had enough of experts, with organisations from acronyms, saying—
Interviewer: They've had enough of experts? The people have had enough of experts? What do you mean by that?
Gove: People from organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong.
Inteviewer: The people of this country have had enough of experts?
Gove: Because these people are the same ones who got consistently wrong what was happening.
Interviewer: This is proper Trump politics this, isn't it?
Gove: No it's actually a faith in the—
Inteviewer: It's Oxbridge Trump.
Gove: It's a faith, Faisal, in the British people to make the right decision.