Geometric progression means a small advantage up front can turn into an insurmountable lead, eventually.” I - Dennis E. Taylor

VEHEMENT appeared to be some kind of radical environmental group, whose ultimate goal was to save the world by removing humanity.

As I said, Will, it’s all theoretical. With study and experimentation, we could come up with compromises that would provide the best balance of weight savings and ecological robustness. That’s what I mean by not having the actual knowledge.

Sadly, it was like most political arguments. No one was willing to debate their base assumptions or justify them or compromise on them. The simple tactic being that if you repeated your assertion often enough, with enough emotion and volume, the opponents would somehow be forced to see things your way. Never worked, of course.