I told him (Zhang Zhijun) that this (daily massive protest) is pretty much what we (Republic of China government) experience in our daily lives. We are used to it. Now that he is head of the Taiwan Affairs Office, he has to understand Taiwan more.

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We believe if the mainland really values how the Taiwanese people feel, and if it wishes to improve mutual political trust between both sides, it will grant Taiwan representative office personnel the right to visit (inmates) for humanitarian reasons.

It's not easy for (Minister of Taiwan Affairs Office of the State Council of the People's Republic of China) Zhang to openly address me by my official title (Minister of the Mainland Affairs Council of the Executive Yuan of the Republic of China).

We have no problem addressing them (PRC officials) by their official titles, although they still have reservations about extending the same courtesy to our (ROC) ministerial-level officials. This is not a personal issue. If there is a formal meeting, I am representing Taiwan.

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