[T]he problem is that as we get greater numbers of these surplus elites... some of them turn into... counter-elites... the individuals who are willin… - Peter Turchin

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[T]he problem is that as we get greater numbers of these surplus elites... some of them turn into... counter-elites... the individuals who are willing to challenge... the reigning regime, and in history often... by violent means, and in fact this is happening in the United States... they're willing to break the rules of the game.