At any particular stage in the development of science, our concepts concerning the causal relationships will then be true only relative to a certain … - David Bohm

This proposal, of a creative plurality in scientific ideas and theories, does, however, raise a significant question: What is the relationship of science to reality? Is this plurality simply a matter of developing a number of different points of view which depend on the requirements of society or the particular preferences of the individual? If this is true, then it would appear that the idea of objectivity within science, as a means of obtaining some relative truth about nature, would no longer be valid. We suggest that there is indeed a meaning to a reality that lies outside ourselves but that it is necessary that we, too, should be included in an essential way as participators in this reality. Our knowledge of the universe is derived from this act of participation which involves ourselves, our senses, the instruments used in experiments, and the ways we communicate and choose to describe nature. This knowledge is therefore both subjective and objective in nature.

One may speculate that perhaps in ancient times, the men who were wise enough to see that the immeasurable is the primary reality were also wise enough to see that measure is insight into a secondary and dependent but nonetheless necessary aspect of reality.

if there is listening through a “listener,” then we are not listening.