unorthodox Scottish psychiatrist
Ronald David Laing (usually known as R.D. Laing, October 7, 1927 – August 23, 1989) was a Scottish psychiatrist who wrote on mental illness and the experience of psychosis.
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I see you, and you see me. I experience you, and you experience me. I see your behaviour. You see my behaviour. But I do not and never have and never will see your experience of me. Just as you cannot "see" my experience of you. My experience of you is not "inside" me. It is simply you, as I experience you. And I do not experience you as inside me. Similarly, I take it that you do not experience me as inside you. "My experience of you" is just another form of words for "you-as-l-experience-you", and "your experience of me" equals "me-as-you-experience-me". Your experience of me is not inside you and my experience of you is not inside me, but your experience of me is invisible to me and my experience of you is invisible to you.
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"هرکس باید بتواند در خاطره خود بازپس بنگرد و مطمئن شود که مادری داشته که وی را دوست میداشت؛ یعنی همه موجودیت وی و حتی ادرار و کثیف کردن او را. او باید مطمئن شود که مادرش وی را فقط به خاطر خودش دوست داشته، نه به خاطر آنچه او میتوانست انجام دهد. در غیر این صورت، او احساس میکند که حقی برای وجود داشتن ندارد. او احساس میکند که هرگز به دنیا نیامدهاست.
مهم نیست که در زندگی چه اتفاقی برای این شخص رخ میدهد و مهم نیست که او چقدر آسیب میبیند؛ او همیشه میتواند به این (خاطره) بازپس بنگرد و احساس کند که دوستداشتنی بودهاست. او میتواند خود را دوست بدارد و در هم شکسته نشود. اگر او نتواند چنین بازگشتی به گذشته داشتهباشد، در هم شکسته میشود.
تو تنها در صورتی میتوانی درهمشکسته شوی که قبلا تکه تکه بوده باشی. تا جایی که خویشتن نوزادی من، هرگز مورد علاقهٔ دیگران نبودهاست، من تکه تکه بودهام. تو با دوست داشتن من به منزلهٔ یک بچه، مرا به یک کل تبدیل میکنی."
(نقل از گزارشهای یک بیمار اسکیزوفرنیک در مرحلهٔ بهبود- خویشتن از هم گسیخته- صص 276 و 277)
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If you had actually screwed me it would have wrecked everything. It
would have convinced me that you were only interested in pleasure with
my animal body and that you didn't really care about the part that was
a person. It would have meant that you were using me like a woman
when I really wasn't one and needed a lot of help to grow into one. It
would have meant you could only see my body and couldn't see the real
me which was still a little girl. The real me would have been up on the
ceiling watching you do things with my body. You would have seemed
content to let the real me die. When you feed a girl, you make her feel
that both her body and her self are wanted. This helps her get joined
together. When you screw her she can feel that her body is separate and
dead. People can screw dead bodies, but they never feed them.
All groups operate by means of phantasy. The type of experience a group gives us is one of the main reasons, if not for some people the only reason, for being in a group. What do people want to get from the experience of being in a particular set of human collectivities?
The close-knit groups that occur in some families and other groupings are bound together by the need to find pseudo-real experience that can be found only through the modality of phantasy. This means that the family is not experienced as the modality of phantasy but as ‘reality’. However, ‘reality’ in this sense is not a modality, but a quality attachable to any modality.
If a family member has a tenable position within the family phantasy system, his call to leave the system in any sense is likely only to come from outside the phantasy system. We vary in readiness, and in desire, to emerge from the unconscious phantasy systems we take to be our realities. As long as we are in apparently tenable positions, we find every reason not to suppose that we are in a false sense of reality or unreality, security or insecurity, identity or lack of identity.
A false social sense of reality entails, among other things, phantasy unrecognized as such. If [someone] begins to wake up from the [group] phantasy system, he can only be classified as mad or bad by [that group] since to them their phantasy is reality, and what is not their phantasy is not real.